Documenting the Co-Ed Killer case

Category: 1989 Interview

Kemper on Kemper book

Got this for Christmas! I wasn’t aware of this book before receiving it as a gift. Independently published in 2020 by author Peter Scott Jr., it presents Kemper’s story through newspapers articles, interviews and personal encounters. It includes written transcripts of some of Kemper’s most famous video interviews, such as the ones for the documentary “Murder – No Apparent Motive” (1984), the FBI Academy (1989) and Stéphane Bourgoin’s “Serial Killers” (1991). Also included is the full transcript of Kemper’s 2017 parole hearing.

This book is nothing new for seasoned Kemper researchers, but it is fun to have a book that collects all of Kemper’s most important interviews. This book is also a good starting point for anyone interested in knowing more about Kemper.

Author Peter Scott Jr. has published a similar book about Charles Manson, Manson on Manson, also released in 2020. Both books are available on Amazon.

Depriving people of their lives

Ed Kemper in 1989

“That wouldn’t have happened… I realize that if I’d never done it, it wouldn’t have happened, but if… What my original intention was to make it very quick and neither one of them to be aware of what was happening and it was not to keep them from stopping the crime. It was to keep them from suffering. I had a real bad problem depriving people of their lives. It wasn’t, huh, the aspect of killing them. It was the aspect of possessing their bodies afterwards. So, it was almost after, in effect, evicting someone from their human body. And, I’m sorry it sounds so cold, but that’s about what it analogizes to.” 

ED kemper about the murders of Alice Liu and Rosalind Thorpe whom he both shot to death in his car

Source: 1989 closed-circuit interview for the FBI Academy

“I was tired of people walking away from me.”

I let more of my personality come out, and I was suicidal, huh, very disturbed. Grasping out at someone. I had abducted them and I wasn’t going to let them out of the car, because I was tired of people walking away from me. So, some of that was very true. But I manipulated that to allow them to help me to the point of resolving their behaviour until we got to a place where they could be killed. And I have… the biggest problem with that on a guilt basis because, obviously, that entailed unusual trust between the captor or the perpetrator and the victim of the crime. 

– Ed Kemper about his state of mind during the Pesce and Luchessa murders.

“I was looking for ways to influence people.”

FBI profiler Robert K. Ressler (off-screen): “So really, you’re a psychologist in your own right, from the standpoint of how to size up people, hum, how they’ll respond to you.”

Ed Kemper: “How about sociologist, in that very lay level. Psychiatrist is looking for pathology. I was looking for ways to influence people.”

FBI profiler Robert K. Ressler (off-screen): “Yeah, OK.”

Excerpt from a 1989 interview for the FBI.